[bomb]emtown

there are always people that dislike a certain style, its just a matter of taste. i dont necessarily like the theme that much, looking at what i think fits warsow best, but the way you made it is absolutely awesome

the whole detailing, texuring and modeling is high quality stuff. GJ m0t0

RimoL wrote:
there are always people that dislike a certain style, its just a matter of taste

solid there are always people that dislike unfinished maps

m0t0 wrote:
solid there are always people that dislike unfinished maps

huh? what has this todo with if you like a style or not?
It seems that you didn't understand me, I think that this map is amazing in all terms of mapping, I just don't like the style.
Actually I don't know what you want, I only wanted to tell you that you made a good job, I didn't insult you in any way, and yet you are coming up with such rude comments.
I didn't quote the part of Rimols answer to discriminate you or your map in any way, I quoted it because it was the main statement in his answer, and he wrote is down as good as possible.

If you can't life with constructive criticism and with people having different tastes, then you shouldn' ask for it...

so you had to make one more post to point this out one more time:

looks like some urbon terror maps

I don't like the style at all, too much urban terror for my taste but from a mappers perspective:

there are always people that dislike a certain style, its just a matter of taste

, I just don't like the style.

guess who posted all these

if you ask me this is not "constructive criticism". Your argument is only based on your subjective opinion and have no explanation.thats just whine or trolling.And About style of this map I showed like ½ year ago some reference pictures which represents final style.Almost no one bothered to look at them and when map was like halfway done some started to say that they dont like this certain style which is way too late.And if you ask me its needless to poin out main statement of someone else`s answer when you've said exactly same thing 5 posts ago.Besides after all this how can you think that I did not understand you.And if this is your way to say:"you did good job",its very fucked up


And I think this whole idea of playing tdm in bomb maps is just wrong.

ok, let's start this

Yes, the argument that I don't like the style is based on my subjective opinion, it has no explanation cause there is no need to explain someones taste. You don't explain to someone why you don't like strawberrys, you just say to him that you don't like them. If you really want me to explain to you why i don't like that specific style then my answer is that I don't like realistic games like cod or cs half as much as unique styles like warsow ones.
Yes, I somehow missed those, I've seen some early pics of them in the wip thread though and I maybe should have told you, sry. It's also not the whole style that bothers me, it's the complete absence of tech. Like someone in the wip thread already said, add some cables or some fuse boxes if you really want to change the style a bit.
I pointed out his answer because you were reacting to my post (and all after mine who said anything about the style) and I wanted to give you an answer, I've seen what Rimol said and that sentence was exactly what I wanted to answer as well, therefore pointing it out. (If the forum would have a karma option I would have just gave him a positive karma point instead)

If you meant my first post, then no, this is not my way to say "you did a good job", this is my way to give you feedback, by telling what I think about the map. I haven't seen anything mapping related that would have bothered me, pls don't mix my personal opinion with my opinion as mapper (like I said, from a mappers perspective: excellent).

SolidFake wrote:
ok, let's start this

please dont. spamming your personal opinion becomes flame. i think what el_m0t0 is tryin to say is he doesnt have nor want to justify his decissions - and neither do you have to explain your opinion. when i told him that the map is unfinished, because the wines are missing while the ladder shader is still there, he said that my maps look unfinished - thats supposed to be funny but what i said is true, still, a simple ladder would be better than nothing.

solidfake you are always talking about other maps. release your map first

Schaaf wrote:
solidfake you are always talking about other maps. release your map first

soooo, I am not allowed to talk about other maps because I am currently working on one by myself? That's not pretty logical...

But k, I see that personal opinions are not desired in this forum here, so I will shut up from now on.

el moto is angry moto :p
nah, but i really think you're taking fake's comment the wrong way.

+1 karma for solidfake (not cus he liked my comment, but because he's being mature about this)

"And I think this whole idea of playing tdm in bomb maps is just wrong."

why so? i think that part of the weakness of tdm is that the maps dont really play in a controlled way, that might be different in bomb maps (some of them anyway)

First chance I've had to take a look round this version.

Very impressive moto. A few minor things, but overall the standard is very high.

size of bomb maps+the design dont fit to the tdm

sorry, but that is such rubbish...

there are some tdm maps that are more open and bigger than bomb maps.

also the fact that bomb maps are generally split into routes, largish rooms and choke points make some of them perfect for tdm. wbomb2 could work quite well as a tdm map imo. emtown also could work very well as one...

i think it might lead to a more team control oriented gamestyle, rather than a manic ffa which tdm kinda looks like atm...

not that it really matters as tdm is dead..

Hey guys cool down.
Its a very good map, with a certain style, one can agree to it or not.
But there is absolutly no reason to battle in forum about this,....
So better go ingame duelling for it

gl + hf

dl

So better go ingame duelling for it

nigga plz

ok after while I want to apologize my reaction for the style "critic",obv had too much passion in it.However I still want to point out that the way and timing ,how and when to give "critisism" is important.In this case when map was around 50% done and texture set was 95% done first ppl said that they dont like style and that continued till the release.Then it was already too late to change style,2 possibilites then were either to cancel whole project or just stick with what you got.that the way how i felt is that the floow was unnecessary (solidfake 4-5 times saying same thing +finally highlighting it.)

and Umm im trying to still optimize this bit more and improve fps.maybe do something for the style (not sure since its big project).thinking that more industrial could be nice. and finally improve clipping+fixing bugs

new version soon

http://padpork.warsow-esport.n.....wn_007.pk3

next version will have some bug fixes and bit better textures.After that I think im done
heres textures wip pic which includes some of the textures on 50% resolution so final ones will have better quality and will look better

http://files.myopera.com/Vinsk.....ewones.jpg

Here is some graph bugs I find on the map. Maybe its just my cfg. To me it looks like 2 bushes are overlapping etch other. But don't have that much mapping experience so.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoeJp1NP6h0&feature=youtu.be

Love the playstyle on the map in pcw/pickup, nice balanced etc. Can be kinda full on 10v10, but no point to say that since it's made for 5v5.