Warsow 0.7 BETA release!

adem wrote:

SuperMaDroiD wrote:
I found a bug:

If you have different resolutions in wsw and on your desktop and switch between programs you don't have fullscreen on wsw anymore.

example: You have 1280x1024 and fullscreen on Warsow and 1600x900 on desktop and you press alt+tab warsow goes out of the fullscreen and plays in window.

on which operation system?

On my windows 7 x64 I have another problem - desktop resolution changes to wsw's one after alt+tabbing. But this problem goes from the earlest wsw versions..

Yeah Win7 x64 too ;)

farmup wrote:

also bind z (")messagemode2(") fails for me

coz u doing it wrong

console uses german layout ingame english since ages just swap z and y while binding them
no probs

Lil bug on wdm17 - standard wsw cfg.





I don't know why but so often I cannot pickup items - I just run trought them. My netgraph is flat :S

About serverbrowser - players should be able to see what map server is running atm without selecting it.
(updated 2012-06-04 08:12:45)

Hi,
I'd like to talk about the server browser…

* Does the server browser have scrollbars?
* Dedicated server is not recognized by the client (version mismatch). Is it intentional for the beta, only to allow selected servers?
* I can't see any sufficient reason for not allowing colors in servers' name. What's the reason behind that change?
* Same question for server sorting… Final version will have (hopefully) much more servers, some basic sorting is necessary IMO.
* Is it intentional to remove Favorites? Why?
* On another area, I see Warsow has a predefined resolution of 1366x768, but some (or many?) monitors uses 1360x768 (mine is one of those)... WTH that specific resolution is not standard among all monitor brands? Could you guys change so Warsow detect the best of the two when that predefinition is selected? (maybe based on desktop resolution) It would help newbies who still don't know how to change resolution manually.

Thanks.

Noobsow wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to talk about the server browser…

* Does the server browser have scrollbars?

yes

Noobsow wrote:
* Dedicated server is not recognized by the client (version mismatch). Is it intentional for the beta, only to allow selected servers?

wfm

Noobsow wrote:
* I can't see any sufficient reason for not allowing colors in servers' name. What's the reason behind that change?

Performance. Librocket can't handle datagrid with too many elements (every colored letter would have be a span tag with colored letter, making at worst cases 20 new tags for a single server, each of which get re-rendered on any element update). We had to even remove map column from the browser to keep performance at acceptable levels. Fully colored and with map etc columns, libr can handle only up to 10-15 server rows at once.

Noobsow wrote:
* Same question for server sorting… Final version will have (hopefully) much more servers, some basic sorting is necessary IMO.

Sorting isn't likely coming, for next beta or maybe even final. See above for libr problems. It is on our endless todo list though..

Noobsow wrote:
* Is it intentional to remove Favorites? Why?

Whole UI was written from scratch, we can't remove something that never existed. So, it's missing. It'll come eventually though.

Noobsow wrote:
* On another area, I see Warsow has a predefined resolution of 1366x768, but some (or many?) monitors uses 1360x768 (mine is one of those)... WTH that specific resolution is not standard among all monitor brands? Could you guys change so Warsow detect the best of the two when that predefinition is selected? (maybe based on desktop resolution) It would help newbies who still don't know how to change resolution manually.

There is 'desktop' option in resolution dropdown which sets your desktop resolution and Warsow defaults to this.
(updated 2012-06-04 11:16:04)

btw, Strenx 2011 movie has similar particle rocket explosion effect :D Also Railgun beam from this movie looks very suitable for warsow... I wish something like that will appear in the next releases =)

2) more tweaking options: look at QL how deep you can customize your game without searching in the console to the right commands. (= very helpful for new people).

Well, we wanted the ui to be simple and actually hide most of the advanced nitpick settings. However useful ones can be added there ofc, and some important ones are missing.

However, I'd rather see ppl work on their own ui's with these settings rather than mess up the default UI completely.

Ubuntu 12.04 .debs for testing!

Ubuntu 12.04 users, please check if these work, gametypes load correctly etc etc:

Warsow 0.7 DATA (required)

Binaries:

64bit build

32bit build

Can confirm it launches and the ui works. :D

I have so many system issues i am considering reinstalling the whole beast. I can't help you more than that atm.

ah mefi, didn't know bout that, thx

farmup wrote:
serverbrowser needs a gt-category

saw from other screenies that it has one, so that's just a resolution issue i guess (how foolish was i to not consider this earlier, omg^^). howevs, maybe there's a way to adjust it for low-resos as well, would be nice

adem wrote:
just some thankful words:

I feel in love with new ui, so fresh and simple! I hope new players will like it too ;) also the speed of loading maps is awesome! How did you do that magic, devs?:D

by keeping reused textures, models, shaders, sounds and other things in memory between map loads instead of loading them from disk for each map

you can still walk inside the boxes at one of the bombsites in downtown

I always trought it's a feature. Funny to ninja ppl there.

crizis wrote:
Ubuntu 12.04 users, please check if these work, gametypes load correctly etc etc:

Kubuntu 12.04 x64, Intel HD Graphics 2000:

- Everything looks alright with default cfg.

P.S. With my cfg from Win7 some maps doesnt work. I'm gonna figure out what cvar makes the problem.
(updated 2012-06-04 17:33:26)

crizis wrote:

Noobsow wrote:
* I can't see any sufficient reason for not allowing colors in servers' name. What's the reason behind that change?

Performance. Librocket can't handle datagrid with too many elements (every colored letter would have be a span tag with colored letter, making at worst cases 20 new tags for a single server, each of which get re-rendered on any element update). We had to even remove map column from the browser to keep performance at acceptable levels. ...

and you think removing the map column is acceptable? really? rather than showing only 15 maps at once, that would be tollerable at least.

crizis wrote:

2) more tweaking options: look at QL how deep you can customize your game without searching in the console to the right commands. (= very helpful for new people).

Well, we wanted the ui to be simple and actually hide most of the advanced nitpick settings. However useful ones can be added there ofc, and some important ones are missing.

as long as usefull features arent disabled.

crizis wrote:

However, I'd rather see ppl work on their own ui's with these settings rather than mess up the default UI completely.

why dont you open up svn then, to have additional devs before release, likewise for public testers? nevermind. i wonder how the other bugs like the sound one could slip by you in developement.

yay for octagonal hitboxes and improved map loading times, after all.
(updated 2012-06-04 21:57:57)

Hi,

Warsow 0.7 crashes if i want to start it with Enabled "AMD CrossFireX" (2 Cards, 4 GPUs)
I tried both, x86 and x64. Even the portable Version does not work.

It works fine if i disable CrossFireX and play with one single card.


The Specifications of my PC:

2 x AMD Radeon HD 6990 (latest driver)
2 x Intel Xeon CPU E5645 @ 2.40GHz
12 x 4GB RAM (48GB)
Windows 7 Ultimate x64

More Informations in the following Files:

DxDiag
CPU-Z
(updated 2012-06-04 22:46:47)

why dont you open up svn then, to have additional devs before release, likewise for public testers? nevermind. i wonder how the other bugs like the sound one could slip by you in developement.

Because we don't want your shit into the game. We decide what gets included.

Oh and btw: sound bug is caused exactly by a patch by someone who's NOT in the dev team...

that is obnoxious and confusing.
pub svn access doesnt need to have write access, that would be unnusual.

nice try avoiding the other question. im patient.
(updated 2012-06-04 23:23:07)

2 x AMD Radeon HD 6990 (latest driver)
2 x Intel Xeon CPU E5645 @ 2.40GHz
12 x 4GB RAM (48GB)

lolwut?

how about updating chipset driver, that should be responsible for coordinating the two cards, init?
(updated 2012-06-04 23:20:53)

crizis, thanks for the answers!

Hope you find a solution for that Librocket limitation in the future!
I don't know how it works, but it looks like a browser engine for games, right?
afaik, browsers don't take any long to load http://www.warsow.net/wmm_servers

Just out of curiosity, what was used in previous versions to render the list of servers?

crizis wrote:

Noobsow wrote:
* Dedicated server is not recognized by the client (version mismatch). Is it intentional for the beta, only to allow selected servers?

wfm

I can't see the my server on the server browser, especially because it doesn't have a Local Servers list, but connecting to it results in error:

2012-06-05T01:14:41Z ]connect 192.168.0.101
2012-06-05T01:14:41Z Connecting to 192.168.0.101...
2012-06-05T01:14:41Z CL_MM_Initialized: 0, cls.mm_ticket: 0
2012-06-05T01:14:41Z Connection refused: Server and client don't have the same version
2012-06-05T01:14:41Z Automatic reconnecting not allowed.

Edit: After some tests, I think it is only the wsw_server_x86.exe that is bugged. wsw_server_x64.exe works fine.
Also, X86 creates "tempmodules" inside the basewsw of the folder where it is.
X64 (as do 0.6) creates at AppData\Roaming\Warsow 0.7\basewsw

I also noted that X86/X64 are eating up 100% of one cpu core for a second or two during initialization.
I got this from the stack of X64:

wsw_server_x64.exe!curl_getdate+0x374f9
wsw_server_x64.exe+0x52e08
wsw_server_x64.exe!curl_getdate+0x39660
msvcrt.dll!fputws+0x3f9
wsw_server_x64.exe!curl_getdate+0x374e8
wsw_server_x64.exe!curl_getdate+0x39660
wsw_server_x64.exe!curl_getdate+0x35660
wsw_server_x64.exe!curl_getdate+0x39660
wsw_server_x64.exe!curl_getdate+0x1d6a0
wsw_server_x64.exe+0x12c3a
wsw_server_x64.exe!curl_getdate+0x39660

crizis wrote:

why dont you open up svn then, to have additional devs before release, likewise for public testers? nevermind. i wonder how the other bugs like the sound one could slip by you in developement.

Because we don't want your shit into the game. We decide what gets included.

Most projects have public SVN for browsing, with writting only for devs. And a public BugZilla open for all; btw, many quake-based games have bugzilla hosted at bugzilla.icculus.org I don't know why.
ofc you know that.

Btw, I think these [Quotes] and [Codes] have too big padding on the forum.

Kai wrote:
12 x 4GB RAM (48GB)

O.o
Is it a server?
(updated 2012-06-05 05:04:18)