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well, its kinda fun
but imo its still a fail midair
played it a bit today again and u still are able to kill someone without airrocket :]
and dunno if there is something like, hight level u have to reach where u are able to die with rocket but had few airrockets without frag

quad thingie is still annoyng, dont like that yellowish "aura" around enemy useless in middair (quad)

and about air control
hmm
dunno if solution without it is best one coz when u play vs someone good with rocketz it smells like 20-0 after one frag

it should be disable by gametype :> not by mappers

#1 im quite sure i played b5 and it was still possible
#2 hmm u are right, 25 seems to be no a good idea. Anyway its not so annoyng with that 152. Just wrote my feelings.
#3 tbh, posted only about quad effect but im thinking that quad as item is pointless, players maybe even dont care about it but hp/armors .. hmm why 999/999 :>
#4 imo something like qw air controll

anyway about qw

http://www.freewebs.com/midair/info.html
check "about"
especially this

F1 :>

maybe "files -> source or server files" will help u
and try some "files -> maps" ! (i can try to help u with thiz)

QW and wsw midair dont have to be exactly the same. QW like small maps should work well with wsw, but QW like movement imo makes it do-circles-in-air-contest and frags become more luck based, which u can alrdy notice if u play with aircontrol 1 in basewsw. While i dislike aircontrol 0, imo aircontrol 2 plays quite well and that would b the default setting i would use. Midair works as well in QW as it does (imo) bcus the projectile speed is so fast for small maps like the maps there. Obviously QW having no walljump helps too.

QW has cramped maps. Yes, they r tall but cramped and thats how they r supposed to b. There it doesnt take too long to get to opposite corner of the room. Huge maps play slower and airfrags to opposite side of the room at high air become harder the bigger the map is. Obviously smaller maps r more spawnrapish but the gametype IS spawnrapish anyways as long as the spawns r in air (which they dont necessiraly have to be, even tho i for one prefer em in air). I remember q4 also having midair, which was cursed with huuuge maps. It sucked, specially with the slow rl it had. So ye, maps following similar trend as QW maps should work quite well on wsw, but huge maps kinda wont. IMO the default map gt comes currently with should b scaled down 20-30% atleast or something, bcus its huge.

The texturing doesnt have to b eye tearing (even tho that has been the trend always with wsw midair) and imo it sucks if the maps make ur eyes go crossed if u plan to play for more than 3mins.

With aircontrol 2 ledges can make u stuck. Its ez to avoid this when doing the map by doing the ledges like here. Also pay attention to the grey area at the lowest part of the walls, it has splash on and makes it easier to bounce enemy whos too near the wall, which is imo a good thing rather than noimpact walls all the way.

Other thing in QW is the dmg based on height (and thats how it was in old wsw midair too) which imo kinda sucks. After certain height the gameplay becomes like it is atm with the gt: 1shot-kill. While its kinda fun to try to get pinpoint hits with RL on maps with noimpact on walls, i would prefer seeing midair where u have to do combos and have splash dmg on (but with higher minheight) and if the opponent drops back to under minheight, the hp/armor would reset.

Settings which i would use for such midair with splash (i would prefer 3-4 direct rox for kill btw):
minheight: 304 (imo the current default isnt really midAIR)
aircontrol: 2
walljumps: on
ffmod: obviously on cus more fun to use rl, and more knockback and cus no-stun makes it insane

Been playing with these settings now for few days (except splash off and 1hp instead of the combo shit) and it plays really well with ffmod imo.

tl;dr:
- scale the default map down
- make the future maps more cramped
- if ur map has ledges, do em like here cus aircontrol 2
- midair requiring combos > current
- make the minheight for frags 2x higher or something

How about an aircontrol where you can accelerate in air (320 and maybe strafe too) but not turn?
Or then just change spawns to be at ground -> spawnrapes fixed

i played a few games today. but i had the feeling splash dmg also kills when they are in midair? is that correct or is my rocket aim better than i thought?

also, i havent tried so i really dont know, does hp always regenerate when touching the ground? Even in versions where you need multiple hits? Cause in the version i played today health would be 1 HP when not touching ground, and 999/999 something when touching the ground. Or does the multiple hit version change the health and armor settings? Cause with 1 hp i cant imagine how its gonna "store" dmg from the previous time you have bene in the air.

Thresher i think hes talking about the thing i ment earlier, but i think u misunderstood. IMO it would b nice to have (votable) combomode, where hp/ap regenerates fast or resets to maximum every time u drop back to below the minimum fragheight, so ur forced to deal enuff dmg to kill the opponent in 1 air to force comboing.

Anyways gj, keep up the good work.

Haha niceness! <3

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Last edited by .THRESHER. (2009-09-28 22:20)